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Are Old Earth Creationists Heretics? Part 2

by Cowboy Bob Sorensen Part 1 of this 2-part series is here . Interesting... I was attacked three times in three days by OECs (Old Earth Creationists). I should not be surprised, I suppose. People love their pet doctrines, and get very passionate, even unchristian, in promoting them . The OEC in the previous post was banned for being obstreperous, illogical and judgmental, and had to continue fussing at me in e-mail correspondence. Also, there was another OEC who pulled similar nonsense and was extremely condescending. He met Mr. Banhammer as well. As I discussed in the previous linked post, OECs essentially use current trends in science and science philosophy to tell God what he meant in his Word. Although this kind of compromise (that's right, I said it) does not guarantee that the person disbelieves the Bible or is not really a Christian, their lower view of Scripture causes a domino effect on theology, with further compromise and excuses as a result. Liberal theolo

Are Old Earth Creationists Heretics?

by Cowboy Bob Sorensen This should be interesting, because I consider this a collaborative effort. From a Facebook exchange in one Page (taken from screen shots) to other forums with people offering some very insightful comments, and I am putting this together. From the outset, I have to repeat some things that I have stated before regarding Old-Earth Creationists (OECs): Many are caught up in the evolutionary propaganda and simply assume that the Earth is millions of years old Some have not thought through the theological implications of adding huge amounts of time to the Creation account Some have been deceived by OECs who misrepresent Young Earth (ie, Biblical) Creationists (YECs) Although I am reluctant to claim the label "YEC" because it is not complete, I use it. But instead, I prefer to be faithful to what the Bible teaches, and that is my final authority. Image credit: Answers in Genesis In fact, the whole thing seems to come down to Biblica

Age of the Earth According to Jesus

Pharisees came to him testing him, and asked him, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?” He answered, “What did Moses command you?” They said, “Moses allowed a certificate of divorce to be written, and to divorce her.” But Jesus said to them, “For your hardness of heart, he wrote you this commandment.  But from the beginning of the creation, God made them male and female .  For this cause a man will leave his father and mother, and will join to his wife,  and the two will become one flesh, so that they are no longer two, but one flesh.  What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate.” — Mark 10.2-9 , World English B ible Theistic evolutionists, progressive creationists, gap theorists and the like attempt to make the Bible say what it does not say. Since "science" (philosophies) have "proven" that the Earth is millions of years old, they add millions of years to the Bible. I have had people say to me, "The Bible doesn't say how old the Ea

Christian Fundamentalism and Anti-Intellectualism

"To be ignorant and simple now – not to be able to meet enemies on their own ground – would be to throw down our weapons, and betray our uneducated brethren who have, under God, no defense but us against the intellectual attacks of the heathen." — C.S. Lewis  By Cowboy Bob Sorensen Edited September 13, 2016   This is a difficult article to write because supporting documents are difficult to obtain. Although there is a plethora of material that states, essentially, "Christian Fundamentalism is anti-intellectual", I am unwilling to use it because of anti-Fundamentalist bias. (Ironic, really, that liberal analyses decrying the anti-intellectualism of Fundamentalism are themselves slanted and illogical in their approach.) There are some problems and bad connotations associated with the Fundamentalist movement , but I am not interested in emotionally-laden terminology. Therefore, this article will draw from my own thoughts, research and experiences. If pe

Should We Clam Up about the Outlandish Stuff?

If I profess, with the loudest voice and the clearest exposition, every portion of the truth of God except precisely that little point which the world and the devil are at that moment attacking, I am not confessing Christ, however boldly I may be professing Christianity. Where the battle rages the loyalty of the soldier is proved; and to be steady on all the battle-field besides is mere flight and disgrace to him if he flinches at that one point. — Elizabeth Rundle Charles , wrongly attributed to Martin Luther Do you have outlandish beliefs and doctrines? I don't mean strange cult stuff like the serpent seed doctrine or that you must speak in tongues or you are not saved . But then, I did not start with a fair question. Actually, do you think that your beliefs are outlandish, or seem outlandish to unbelievers? Further, are you embarrassed and hide your beliefs? Regular readers know that I am biblical ("young earth") creationist. I reject evolution because th

Theistic Evolution and Morality

Evolutionists answer questions like, "Where did consciousness come from? Why do we like — and make — music? Where did the laws of logic come from? When did the laws of nature take effect" by offering guesses, speculation and more theories. They do not make sense, but only raise more questions. Theistic evolution is the belief that evolution happened, then they tack God's name onto it as if it is a blessing. (But if evolution happened, who needs God?) For them, God used the amazingly inefficient, wasteful and cruel method of evolution in his creation. Of course, the Bible does not mean what it says in Genesis, and they have as much tap-dancing with compromise and excuses as the atheistic evolutionists have. Here's a question to fluster theistic evolutionists: How do they explain the origin of morality? In recent years there has been a growing body of literature in which theistic evolutionists advance arguments in support of their belief that evolution, properly under

A Day at a Time

A straightforward reading of the creation accounts in Genesis give the impression that the days were literal days. Which is fine, because things like the "Gap Theory", "Progressive Creation", "Theistic Evolution", "Day-Age Theory" — these are modern inventions, and certainly not taught by the majority of the church fathers . Some people are claiming that the Hebrew does not mean a literal day, despite what has been believed for centuries. In 1983, as a Junior, I walked into the University of Georgia’s religion building terrified. The professor was an expert in Hebrew from Yale University. I had been a Christian for only two years, and I wanted to learn that language. I knew that the religion department doubted the authorship of Old Testament books. For them, the myth Enuma Elish was more important for understanding Genesis than was Moses, Paul, or Jesus. Most of them believed that evolution disproved Christianity once and for all. Jesus wa